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The Matrix Revolutions

Entertainment Marketing 101

::: EON: Everything’s Obsolete Now

It’s not a story. It’s not a philosophy. It’s a global marketing experiment that’s all about control. And George Orwell saw it coming. ::: Click here to read the full text.


Posted by: editor on Nov 07, 2003 | 11:26 am

::: pheedback :::

I'm at home now so I can finish....


Posted by: Havok on Nov 20, 03 | 5:56 pm ::: Profile

I typed a lot and lost it.. I deviated from the plot though..but it told me I can't have more then 2500 characters...and when I pressed 'back' it all was gone.. so maybe it wasn't for you to know what I was saying.....cause I did go way off the subject... I'll stick to the story.. check back.


Posted by: Havok on Nov 20, 03 | 2:27 pm ::: Profile

Thanks much. Looking forward to the craziness.

Good God, after the story so far...it must really be crazy.

Jim


Posted by: Jim Rovira on Nov 20, 03 | 1:08 pm ::: Profile

okay, and don't worry... anything YOU say is okay to me.. it doesn't matter. You have a good heart...

I'll haven't gotten to the crazy thing yet...


Posted by: Havok on Nov 20, 03 | 12:50 pm ::: Profile

Crap, that's one heck of a story. Yeah, finish.

So far you sound very intelligent, that you were doing what you thought you needed to do to survive, but since some of these things were illegal you got burned when you got caught, that's all. But please, go on.

Although you should note I never said you were crazy, so it'd be hard for you to know how I see what crazy means...

Jim


Posted by: Jim Rovira on Nov 20, 03 | 12:27 pm ::: Profile

I'll finish if you want me too.. I don't want to bore anyone.. but I like telling my story.... I you want me to finish just say so... if not.. I won't.. but do want to tell you, that I edited the first part so it wouldn't be too long (I left out many exciting details..but I'm not trying to entertain..just make a point).. AND I would like to tell you, that this is all the boring set up stuff... the real 'crazy' stuff I haven't spoken of yet... so it's up to you (many people have told me that I should write a movie from this.... I gurantee it would be a hit)...


Posted by: Havok on Nov 20, 03 | 10:52 am ::: Profile

part 2
I worked w/ cellular phones.. a created (keep in mind I'm 21 yrs old)..out of the blue to get phones to people who would be denied by Nextel (because of credit reasons)..I would manage multiple business accounts.... 50 cell phone lines each... but these businesses..well, you know.... and I would over charge the monthly bill to these people.. for my own personal 'management' cost..(hey.. I had to keep up the records).. all by myself...and I also had a team of 8 people... who.... anyway.. (I don't know why I'm telling this story..but it's to make a point) I was up to around $800-$1000 on a good day... and many of my clients...saw my service as an advantage because it would not have their name on the phone account...soo... now they would not be responsible for any recordings or 'taps'... that may be placed on their accounts...and my phones were also popular because this was the time when nextel 'direct link' feature was hot... and the new i90 phones came out.. valued at $400 a peice.. Now, I don't know how/where all these ideas for this business came from.. but whoever this person was that was with me... took control of the whole situation...(very similar to 'fight club') I was a one man army... dealing with other armies (gangs/orgainzed crime..ect)... then one of the owners of a cell phone store, whom I had dealings with, slipped up. And the domino effect began, and nextel shut off ALL of the phones I had... which created some (to say unhappy would be an understatement...considering the fact that some of my clients relied on their phone to keep their $2000+ a day business' going)... and the death threats poured in like the flood gates being opened.... and considering that my driver's license was still revoked (and I would be thrown in jail if caught driving).. I was a sitting duck on the street.. I knew that I would be killed in the next few hours/days/weeks... because these people all where know for killing for less...a lot less)..... I'll finish in a few...


Posted by: Havok on Nov 20, 03 | 10:17 am ::: Profile

Sorry.. I leave work at 4pm Central time..(5pm eastern)
here's my 'story' (and it is neccessary to tell this like this for you to understand why I know I'm 'insane' (and also consider that I do not respect humanity's definition of 'sane' so I'm not afraid to say I'm crazy in the way you see it)

Well, about the 'crazy' aspect. When I was 21 (2 years ago) I learned an important lesson. This is around the time when I aquired my 'other' personality. I had spent 3 yrs in college. Okay, I'll back up a little. In high school (I graduated in 98') the only thing that kept me from the streets was my football. I had plenty of opportunities to drop out and make big money. (Understand that a 15 yr old, where I'm from, can easily make $1200 a day during the hours of 5am-12pm) At this point I was a 'b' student. I never did any homework. But I was considered one of the smartest in all my classes, but I never went to class. Okay, I'll make everything short. In college...I'm not ashamed to say I was the most popular person on the whole campus..and easily the most recognizable...after 3 years... I was considered by most as intelligent, and very 'sane' & popular. It all came crashing down when my father's tax problems caused me to lose all my grants/scholarships. I was kicked out. On top of that my driver's license got revoked... which means I couldn't be caught on the road.. and I had warrents for my arrest, among other problems... (all beyond my control, and I was totally innocent of ALL these situations, life turned against me)
I was kicked out of school for those reasons... and lost it all... which lead me back to Chicago.. and to the streets.....where the rules were different.. more to my advantage... I began to make $$$.. and I was building something good... my own business.... that included many different aspects....
my business was half street/half legal...


Posted by: Havok on Nov 20, 03 | 10:17 am ::: Profile

Ok, here's my shot:

"THERE IS control of your free will"

Do you mean we can exercise individual free will, or that someone else is controlling us, or both?

"THERE is control over this world"

Do you mean God? Human society? All kinds of things?

"WE ARE NOT the most intelligent race that exist in the univ."

You're right. So what?

"HUMANITY will fail the ultimate test"

What is the test, how do you know about it, and how do you evaluate failure?

"THOSE who lose their humanity are 'right'"

How are you defining "humanity" and how can we lose it?

"GOOD = EVIL"

Do you mean that what we normally think of as good -- meaning, people loving each other, caring for one another, telling the truth (as you seem to think you are doing) are really "evil" things, and that the things we normally think of as evil (such as murdering people, lying, manipulation, etc.) are really "good"?

Do you mean to speak of good and evil in moral terms or in pragmatic terms?

"I am CRAZY "

No one who really is would ever say it. The really crazy think they are sane.

Jim


Posted by: Jim Rovira on Nov 19, 03 | 4:59 pm ::: Profile

Wouldn't it be great if we could talk about real life.. like we do these movies? Unfortunately because humanity looks at movies as fantasy there could never be a crossover into reality.... BUT because humanity doesn't believe in something... doesn't make it non-existant. Debating is annoying to me. Especially over opinions. Now I can tell you a truth believe it or not.

And anyone can let me know if he/she disagrees:

THERE IS control of your free will

THERE is control over this world

WE ARE NOT the most intelligent race that exist in the univ.

HUMANITY will fail the ultimate test

THOSE who lose their humanity are 'right'

GOOD = EVIL

I am CRAZY

Now because I said I'm crazy... all validity of what I said is gone out the door..correct? (judging is the worst thing a person can do)


Posted by: Havok on Nov 19, 03 | 4:40 pm ::: Profile

There's a Kill Bill section? Man, I DO need to go there...would like to read the article/comments.

There are plenty of educated people who share your wrong opinion, so I have no way of judging your education.

:)

Jim


Posted by: Jim Rovira on Nov 19, 03 | 3:45 pm ::: Profile

How nice... you know.. the people I like the best are the people I can disagree (I'm only saying disagree....well you know)with... without and 'arguement'...

did you read my comment on the 'Kill Bill' section? I would love to hear your response on that one....

oh..and one question.. would you consider me an educated person?


Posted by: Havok on Nov 19, 03 | 3:36 pm ::: Profile

Who said we can't be friends?

All your observations are correct. Now...so what? :).

Does that mean that what I think is real isn't really real?

The wife example probably isn't really good, because she's equally a reality to her family, her friends, her co-worker, and most importantly to the killer, who couldn't kill her if she wasn't non-existent.

Because that's the case, I can say the killer deserves to be punished for the actions he committed against -our shared reality-.

A shared reality you acknowledge in the act of using language...

Jim


Posted by: Jim Rovira on Nov 19, 03 | 3:17 pm ::: Profile

The problem w/ the world today (and unfortunately I've had to find out the hard way a couple of times)...

(I know... I've got a problem wit the world(damn right))

BUT... if truth were to come to this earth. And show everyone... the world wouldn't beleive him if they couldn't have it or understand it... he would probably be killed.

How would you feel if a person took away your perception of what's 'really real'? Let's say your married.... your reality is to have your wife in your life....
and then a killer comes and destroys your reality.... how would you feel? Out of control? Lost? What is the human reaction to having those fears? (Sort of like many's fear of black people).... oppression... death.. you know.

If a ghost were to appear to you... you'd run.

If you saw fire come from the sky.. you'd be scared.

If you see a vision....your a skitzo..(your wrong/not sane)

Fear = ignorance or reality

nothing to fear but fear itself..

Jim if I changed what you thought was real.. just w/ my words... you'd disagree.


Posted by: Havok on Nov 19, 03 | 3:09 pm ::: Profile

Jim..
you are like the + to my - ( most people are)... But there is a difference between us that has no explaination. Which may never allow us to agree on any subject. But does that mean we can't be friends?


Posted by: Havok on Nov 19, 03 | 3:01 pm ::: Profile
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